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06-30-2024, 04:30 AM
#571
spooldup
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
I didn’t know which thread to put this in so I just stuck it here…
Whoa. Block hours are WAY down for August. 8% fleet wide with a few bases seeing 15% down.
I had to go back and look at historical averages to see if this was business as usual. It’s not. My data only goes back to 2019 but every single August has at least a couple thousand more block hours than the previous July.
I wonder if those poor metrics are having a greater toll than we know? Maybe the rumors swirling about day trips not quite working as planned are true and some changes are coming? Maybe 15 321NEO airplanes are all going down for engine overhaul at once? Doubtful on that one.
Ah yes... Lost 25% seniority and now I am even going to lose more flying that I could possibly get.
I heard from someone at SOC that day trips are a total mess and it isn't going as planned.
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06-30-2024, 07:18 AM
#572
MstrAv8r
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Originally Posted by spooldup
I heard from someone at SOC that day trips are a total mess and it isn't going as planned.
You dont say? Im not at F9 any longer, but when BB launched this bad good idea, it was obvious to me that he was grasping at straws. My personal take is that genius saw that Allegiant was very profitable utilizing that model, and BB needed to do something to try to show investors that he was doing something.
Companies arent in business for the sake of being in business. F9 isnt making any money, and Id bet it gets clobbered this summer with a big loss. I hope Im surprised, but I dont think I will be. Good luck over there dealing with those management fools running the show.
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06-30-2024, 08:49 AM
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hercretired
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Originally Posted by DumboDrop
BL said last month that they took flying out of the schedule to try to improve performance. I assume the decision was made a few months ago, and we will see that for August.
If they grounded the entire fleet for 48 hours, they would have zero lost luggage and no late flights those days.
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06-30-2024, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hercretired
If they grounded the entire fleet for 48 hours, they would have zero lost luggage and no late flights those days.
Even if we have 0 cancellations the rest of the year we cant get to our 99% cancelation metric. I didnt bother doing the math in the rest. I assume its also not attainable now.
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06-30-2024, 09:42 AM
#575
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
Even if we have 0 cancellations the rest of the year we cant get to our 99% cancelation metric. I didnt bother doing the math in the rest. I assume its also not attainable now.
correct but Barry can come out on Twitter and say "today we celebrate zero late flights"
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06-30-2024, 06:53 PM
#576
HSCompressor
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
I didnt know which thread to put this in so I just stuck it here
Whoa. Block hours are WAY down for August. 8% fleet wide with a few bases seeing 15% down.
I had to go back and look at historical averages to see if this was business as usual. Its not. My data only goes back to 2019 but every single August has at least a couple thousand more block hours than the previous July.
I wonder if those poor metrics are having a greater toll than we know? Maybe the rumors swirling about day trips not quite working as planned are true and some changes are coming? Maybe 15 321NEO airplanes are all going down for engine overhaul at once? Doubtful on that one.
You piqued my interest with this one. Rough math im showing:
Aug 24: +49k total block hrs
Aug 23: +47k total block hrs
Aug 22: +39k total block hrs.
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06-30-2024, 07:24 PM
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dracir1
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Originally Posted by HSCompressor
You piqued my interest with this one. Rough math im showing:
Aug 24: +49k total block hrs
Aug 23: +47k total block hrs
Aug 22: +39k total block hrs.
If that's total - you have to look at the # of bases during the time.
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06-30-2024, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HSCompressor
You piqued my interest with this one. Rough math im showing:
Aug 24: +49k total block hrs
Aug 23: +47k total block hrs
Aug 22: +39k total block hrs.
Close enough. In June and July 24 we have/had 55k. We also have 21 more planes than this time last year. 126 vs 147.
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06-30-2024, 07:40 PM
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HSCompressor
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Originally Posted by Stayontarget
Close enough. In June and July 24 we have/had 55k. We also have 21 more planes than this time last year. 126 vs 147.
oh gotcha. I thought you were talking exclusively about August from years past. I didnt realize you meant down July->August. My misunderstanding
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06-30-2024, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HSCompressor
oh gotcha. I thought you were talking exclusively about August from years past. I didnt realize you meant down July->August. My misunderstanding
I definitely had to do a double take when I saw the pairings come out and the totals. Kinda as some mentioned above Thats it?! The next earnings call should be another fun one.
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